Len'en Wiki talk:Guidelines

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Tighter Regulations[edit]

In order to maintain a degree of professionalism and not lose sight of its actual reason for existence, regulations on what can and cannot be documented on the Len'en Wiki will be updated and enforced. The wiki is supposed to be a source of documentation for official works, as well as derivative works with any sort of significance, so pages for things like Len'en fan characters or gag translation projects will no longer be tolerated and be taken down 72 hours from the time stamp on this message. In the meantime, please archive whatever you feel needs to be preserved, as articles unbecoming of the wiki will be deleted with extreme prejudice. The Len'en Wiki editing guidelines page will be updated with the aforementioned new regulations soon.

To dispel any ambiguity, the following is a list of pages that will be taken down after 72 hours:

――Popfan (talk/contribs) 17:18, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

The above pages have now been deleted with extreme prejudice. ――Popfan (talk/contribs) 20:22, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Touhou Content on the Len'en Wiki[edit]

As I already told Tony yesterday, I really don't think documenting "Fools rush in" on the Len'en Wiki, of all places, is a good idea.

  1. First of all, this is the Len'en Wiki. Get it? Len'en. What is FRI? A Touhou fangame. And pardon me for stating the obvious, but there already is such a thing as a Touhou Wiki. That alone should already disbar the game from being covered on here.
  2. "But Seihou and Samidare are covered on the Touhou Wiki, too!"
    That may be, but only because there's no such thing as a Seihou Wiki. Hell, remember where Len'en started out? That's right, it had its own spot on the Touhou Wiki, but then the Len'en Wiki was created and all the information was migrated to here. And besides, the Touhou Wiki itself is kind of a big deal, considering you apparently need to write up a biography if you want to so much as request an account to be created. It's a big place that documents fanwork as well as official work, so why not use a perfectly good wiki dedicated to that sort of thing?
  3. "But what about Torte Le Magic? Or Uwabami Breakers? Those are covered on the Touhou Wiki"
    They're one-off titles whose settings really wouldn't warrant their own wiki. You can't compare those to the likes of a Touhou fangame at all.
  4. "But it's made by JynX and it's a significant work!"
    No, aside from it being an April Fool's joke we get to play unlike the PC-98 remakes, it really isn't that big of a deal. Also, need I remind you that this is the Len'en Wiki? 95% of what JynX produces may be Len'en-related, but that doesn't mean we should just go and turn this place into a JynX Wiki. If we did that, we might as well nix all of the pages on Emergency Everyday because that game wasn't even made by him.
  5. Speaking of JynX, go look at his page, specifically where I linked to just there. The albums sure as hell don't have pages on the Len'en Wiki, do they? So why should the fangames?

It would be a different story if the game had Len'en characters as cameos in it, but this is not the case now, and likely won't be the case in the future. There's really no point in broadening what we cover beyond Len'en's official and derivative works, so I strongly suggest that we focus on Len'en and Len'en only. ――Popfan (talk/contribs) 10:08, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Date Formatting[edit]

So one thing I noticed is that the way dates are written in articles on this wiki is highly inconsistent, and so I feel we really need to find one and stick with it. Taking the current date as an example, I'd go for either 3 September 2017 or September 3, 2017 (note the comma). Perhaps it'd be a good idea to hold a bit of a poll on this. Maybe put one on the front page? What other date formats can you think of? ――Popfan (talk/contribs) 04:12, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

I'd be happy to go with either of those you've suggested. I could make a poll of it (unless there's other suggestions?) ― Tony64 (Talk/Con.) 20:56, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

Honorifics in Translations[edit]

I've noticed that sometimes Japanese honorifics are left untranslated in English, gets reworded in a way that still flows good in English (e.g. Suzumi's "Master Tsubakura", changing "Daijin-kun" to "good ol' pal Daijin"), or gets omitted altogether. How exactly should we handle various honorifics? Personally, either omitting them or rewording them seems like the better options for the dialogues. Saying them untranslated out loud in English just doesn't come across as something that's said naturally. ― Tony64 (Talk/Con.) 11:33, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

As lazy as this sounds, rewording takes some effort and creativity that I'm not willing to put in. If someone wants to go through and reword something I post after the fact that's fine by me, but I usually keep them just because it saves me time. I don't really care either way, but I'd rather not be breaking a rule by keeping them.--Acy (talk) 17:33, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

I agree that rewording them in English while keeping the same general vibe is ideal yeah, tho if any given editor doesn't want to deal w/ it at the time then it's no problem if they just leave it for someone else to step in and reword later imo Gilde (talk) 02:10, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

Want to bring this up again since changes to the honorifics have been made (plus for those who aren't in the Discord server). The standard based on above was to have them reworded to best fit in English where possible. Any other thoughts? ― Tony64 (Talk/Con.) 11:37, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

I'm personally more inclined to reword them to fit English, since the flow feels more natural that way. (-O-) (talk) 13:33, 17 July 2019 (UTC)